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The Avengers 2

Postby Bigtymin504 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:37 am

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Re: The Avengers 2

Postby Arsenal » Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:16 am

As much as I like Joss, I have some worries that they might overload him or give him too much power here.

I loved Avengers but it was because it had very few Whedon moments. I just hope it doesn't go like the Rami Spider-Man movies where he adds more and more of his own touches ( The POV of Dr. Ock's arms in the hospital) until we have the Hypno Hustler show up and Iron Man and Captain America have to sing.


The show has a lot of potential, so that I am excited for.
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Re: The Avengers 2

Postby Bigtymin504 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:54 am

Marvel Studios and Fox in trade negotiations for Galactus, Silver Surfer and Daredevil??
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/ ... s/?a=65226


I dunno who I would want Marvel to get! Galactus and Surfer would probably be my gut pick because of the whole cosmic tilt Phase 2 is going, plus they're awesome. Imagine them along with Thanos in these Guardians and Avengers movies! Then again, Daredevil has so much on screen potential. He would provide that NYC street level hero that the Marvel Cinematic Universe is missing without Spidey. Also, Daredevil could make for one bitchin television series.
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Re: The Avengers 2

Postby Arsenal » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:35 pm

I don't see any point in getting the Surfer and Galactus with out the Fantastic Four
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Re: The Avengers 2

Postby shark6495 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:56 pm

Could Disney/Fox cut a deal where they help finance F4 and then incorporate it into their film franchises? That way we get a proper F4 film that would fold into the Marvel U.... same thing with the new x-men movies? and future spideys?
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Re: The Avengers 2

Postby Dr. Wade McNasty » Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:04 pm

Bigtymin504 wrote:Joss is back!


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Bigtymin504 wrote:And he's creating an Avengers TV show!

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While liked Angel Firefly was alright), for the most part, I can't stand his shows. And while he will "help develop" it, I can't help but think this will turn into shit and Joss will deflect blame like he tends to do when the shit hits the fan. Well, we'll see how this goes.


Arsenal wrote:I don't see any point in getting the Surfer and Galactus with out the Fantastic Four


I was thinking this. Marvel would be better off getting Daredevil back and strong-arming Fox into playing ball later on.
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Re: The Avengers 2

Postby jaydee74 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:38 pm

I've actually liked all of Joss' shows with the exception of Dollhouse. I didn't hate it but didn't love it either. I would be curious in knowing what kind of Marvel show he'll be putting out first before I decide whether it's gonna be good or not although I do hope Marvel isn't giving him too much to do so he'll be behind on getting stuff done. Still, I'm excited for this.
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Re: The Avengers 2

Postby Dr. Wade McNasty » Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:04 pm

jaydee74 wrote:I've actually liked all of Joss' shows with the exception of Dollhouse. I didn't hate it but didn't love it either. I would be curious in knowing what kind of Marvel show he'll be putting out first before I decide whether it's gonna be good or not although I do hope Marvel isn't giving him too much to do so he'll be behind on getting stuff done. Still, I'm excited for this.



I just had a horrible thought: What if........what if he makes the show about Spider-woman? And Bendis is allowed to write? :shock: :o :|

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Re: The Avengers 2

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Re: The Avengers 2

Postby Dr. Wade McNasty » Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:42 am



IT BEGINS. :twisted:

Time for speculation: So how do you think Marvel will handle this? While I am not crazy about how they handle their comics, I love how they handle their movies. An interesting thing: Matt Damon is a big time Daredevil fan. I wonder if they can include him on this project somehow. Probably not as Daredevil but as someone else? Can he direct? The idea of a fan of the comic directing the movie seems pretty cool to me.
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Re: The Avengers 2

Postby Dr. Wade McNasty » Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:42 pm

In related news:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92cVd9Ha ... r_embedded

Looks pretty cool, though I would like to see a modern interpretation of Daredevil, they could seriously use this for a different superhero like Shang-Chi or Luke Cage.

As for Avengers stuff:
I'm personally saddened that this will never occur:
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Unless Pym will still be relatively young, I hope they work him into the Avengers movies later on. Pym is so central to a lot of things it seems like the logical thing would be to bring him back. And Ewan however it's spelled) would make for a good Pym.
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Re: The Avengers 2

Postby Arsenal » Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:20 am

Well the Ant-Man movie is supposed to happen, so we may get that still. Not sure who will play him.


All I know is I wan't me some Spider-Woman or Ms. Marvel. Both would be easy to fit in, Spider-woman working with Hydra in Cap2, redeems herself and boom instant hero for Avengers #2.

Ms Marvel they messed up by having Maria Hill over Carol as the go to shield female. Could have had her get blasted by the staff but it misses her and hits something else in the lab area explosion, post dredit scene where she wakes up floating over the bed with glowing hands.

And there we go two strong females for Avengers 2 so its less of a sausage fest and we don't have to deal with just boring Black Widow.
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Re: The Avengers 2

Postby Batman25JM » Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:23 pm

I loved Black Widow in Avengers. She was actually one of my favorite parts of the movie. That said, I would like to see more female Avengers. I think it would be cool to see Mockingbird. Although, I don't know if they'll want to have another Avenger without powers. Spider-Woman and Ms. Marvel would both work well. I've always really liked Spider-Woman and I'd like to see her on the big screen. Historically I haven't been a big Ms. Marvel fan, but between her appearing on Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes and her new Captain Marvel book, I'm becoming a fan. If she appears in the movie I'd like her to either have her original Ms. Marvel costume or her current Captain Marvel costume. I'm not really overly into the black swimsuit. Though if they gave the black swimsuit pants, like in the Super Hero Squad Show, then I'd like it more. Also, I think they should call her Captain Marvel. Depending on how the Guardians of the Galaxy movie works out, they might be able to introduce her in that.

I really hope with get Hank Pym. I know the Ant-Man movie is moving forward, but they haven't confirmed which Ant-Man they're going to use. I know there was also talk of having it where Pym was Ant-Man in the 60s and then Eric (or Scott I can't remember) found the equipment in the present. I don't want that to be the case. I want Pym as Ant-Man in the present. I want him interacting with Tony and Bruce. I'd also like to see him become Giant-Man at some point since that's my favorite identity of his. Though Giant-Man might be hard to pull of in a movie. Anyway, like Wade said, Pym is a big part of the Avengers and I think they need to introduce him. And I hadn't even thought of it, but I think Ewan McGregor would be a pretty good fit.

I still want to seen Nathan Fillion in Avengers 2. He's got a great relationship with Joss Whedon, so it could happen.

Also, I completely trust Joss Whedon. I've loved all 4 of his shows and his Astonishing X-Men run is my favorite X-Men run ever as well as one of my favorite comic runs ever. I feel that when he's using other people's characters he doesn't over "Whedon" it. He understands how those characters work and uses them in that way.
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Re: The Avengers 2

Postby Dr. Wade McNasty » Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:18 pm

I totally agree. I'd rather have Pym in the present. That said, I've never been a big fan of Ms. Marvel or Spider-Woman (*glares at Bendis*). Give me Monica Rambeau (she should have been Captain Marvel since she was Captain Marvel before - throw on Ultimate Captain Marvel's costume on her and you have awesomesauce hell she could take over for Protector since a block of wood has more personality than he does now - he should go back to being Marvel Boy but I digress) and She-Hulk any day. Barring that, Mockingbird could work, but they would need to tweak her a bit, maybe give her actual powers like she has now (does she still have those powers?). They could have her be someone who was exposed to some volatile derivative of the super-soldier serum. Concerning Rambeau aside from the fact that she brings all kinds of diversity to the team, her background as a scientist would make it easier to introduce her as well as be a nice way to showcase other characters who were or are scientists as well (a good number of them between the 616 and ultimate versions).
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Re: The Avengers 2

Postby Rath99 » Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:48 pm

I know this sounds silly but lets keep in mind we are talking about Hollywood here....Does anyone thing they will shy away from Spider-Woman and She-Hulk because they have male counterparts and Hollywood wouldn't want to "confuse" anyone? They seem to nitpick every character and I think (hope I'm wrong) that the fact that there is a Spider-Man and Hulk will be viewed as a determent. Especially for She-Hulk since Hulk is already in the movie.
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Re: The Avengers 2

Postby Batman25JM » Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:24 pm

I completely forgot about She-Hulk. I hope they use her.


Rath99 wrote:I know this sounds silly but lets keep in mind we are talking about Hollywood here....Does anyone thing they will shy away from Spider-Woman and She-Hulk because they have male counterparts and Hollywood wouldn't want to "confuse" anyone? They seem to nitpick every character and I think (hope I'm wrong) that the fact that there is a Spider-Man and Hulk will be viewed as a determent. Especially for She-Hulk since Hulk is already in the movie.


I think you make a valid point. I can easily see them not using those characters for fear of confusing the general audience. I actually think that would prevent them using Spider-Woman more than She-Hulk though. With Spider-Man being tied up with Sony and not being part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, I can see them thinking her inclusion would confuse people and get a lot of "but where's Spider-Man?" and "why didn't they use Spider-Man?". I think they'd have an easier time using She-Hulk because Hulk is in the movie and they can tie her together with him. There wouldn't be the question of where the Hulk was.
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Re: The Avengers 2

Postby Dr. Wade McNasty » Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:53 am

Rath99 wrote:I know this sounds silly but lets keep in mind we are talking about Hollywood here....Does anyone thing they will shy away from Spider-Woman and She-Hulk because they have male counterparts and Hollywood wouldn't want to "confuse" anyone? They seem to nitpick every character and I think (hope I'm wrong) that the fact that there is a Spider-Man and Hulk will be viewed as a determent. Especially for She-Hulk since Hulk is already in the movie.


That's actually a very good point. People will be wondering where Spider-man is, some people will think this is PC bullshit when it's not. As for She-Hulk, I can see her working out, but one would wonder what exactly she adds to the team. People will just see her as a weaker version of Hulk, which sucks because she is so much more than that. Ms. Marvel seems like a safe bet in that she has a fairly unique powerset as far as the movies go, makes a nice connection to the cosmic scene, and has a following. I do hope though that Mar-Vell makes it into the movies as the first Captain Marvel (then dies, passing on the mantle to Carol (I can live with Rambeau being introduced as Photon...I guess :x )). I'd honestly want Wasp in this movie as well but her without Pym seems kind of silly to me. That and her powerset is a hard sell.
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Re: The Avengers 2

Postby Bigtymin504 » Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:25 pm

Not even sure Marvel could use Spider-Woman if they wanted to, but don't think they would even if they could. She-Hulk is a definite possibility. Maybe introduced in a potential Mark Ruffalo Hulk solo film. Recently, Angie Harmon said she'd love to play her. Seems like a good fit since she's tall, hot, and been on a few law-related shows.

Carol Danvers is probably the most likely next female. Over the last few years she's been positioned as Marvel's top non-mutant female character. Plus she's really easy to introduce. Just give her a SHIELD/Air Force background, some Kree (or whatever fits) powers, call her Captain Marvel and you're set.
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Re: The Avengers 2

Postby Dr. Wade McNasty » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:58 pm

Bigtymin504 wrote:Not even sure Marvel could use Spider-Woman if they wanted to, but don't think they would even if they could. She-Hulk is a definite possibility. Maybe introduced in a potential Mark Ruffalo Hulk solo film. Recently, Angie Harmon said she'd love to play her. Seems like a good fit since she's tall, hot, and been on a few law-related shows.


One issue I've always had with a live-action depiction of She-Hulk is: A chick painted green is a chick painted green. No matter what they do, unless they throw in in CG or get some super-buff chick to play the Hulk side of She-Hulk, she will look like a hot chick covered in green paint. All fetishes aside, I can't help but think that it would look silly on screen. And I say this as someone who wants to see She-Hulk done right in live action. I know I suggested it earlier but the more I think about it, the less viable it seems.

Quick someone convince me otherwise! I hate thinking like this! :|


Bigtymin504 wrote:Carol Danvers is probably the most likely next female. Over the last few years she's been positioned as Marvel's top non-mutant female character. Plus she's really easy to introduce. Just give her a SHIELD/Air Force background, some Kree (or whatever fits) powers, call her Captain Marvel and you're set.


Flying zapping Supergirl does seem like the best fit and brings a different set of powers to the table. I still can't stand Danvers though and hope they make her, personality-wise, different from the comic.
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Re: The Avengers 2

Postby Aussiemandias » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:12 am

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Bigtymin504 wrote:Not even sure Marvel could use Spider-Woman if they wanted to, but don't think they would even if they could. She-Hulk is a definite possibility. Maybe introduced in a potential Mark Ruffalo Hulk solo film. Recently, Angie Harmon said she'd love to play her. Seems like a good fit since she's tall, hot, and been on a few law-related shows.


One issue I've always had with a live-action depiction of She-Hulk is: A chick painted green is a chick painted green. No matter what they do, unless they throw in in CG or get some super-buff chick to play the Hulk side of She-Hulk, she will look like a hot chick covered in green paint. All fetishes aside, I can't help but think that it would look silly on screen. And I say this as someone who wants to see She-Hulk done right in live action. I know I suggested it earlier but the more I think about it, the less viable it seems.

Quick someone convince me otherwise! I hate thinking like this! :|

Personally, I just don't think they would do it when they already have the Hulk. It just seem like an unecessary character. I think Carol Danvers and the Wasp are more likely female candidates.
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Re: The Avengers 2

Postby Bigtymin504 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:13 pm

Behold, fan-made Coulson as The Vision sculpt!
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/ ... s/?a=65883

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Re: The Avengers 2

Postby Dr. Wade McNasty » Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:44 am

Bigtymin504 wrote:Behold, fan-made Coulson as The Vision sculpt!
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/ ... s/?a=65883

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While I dislike the idea of Coulson being killed off (he was the everyman's link to all this wacky superhero stuff and I feel Whedon tossed him aside so he could shove the bland, dreary, forgettable and ever so boring Maria Hill down our throats....just like in the comics) that is some impressive work. I'm both impressed and horrified: Impressed at the detail, horrified that I initially thought it was made of chocolate and thought of eating CoulsonVision's face. :shock:
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Re: The Avengers 2

Postby Bigtymin504 » Thu May 02, 2013 2:39 am

Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver confirmed?!
http://popwatch.ew.com/2013/05/01/this-weeks-cover-iron-man-3/
Some online rumors turn out to be true, however. A source confirms to EW that the twin characters Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch will be joining The Avengers 2, which Whedon hinted at recently when he said he was writing a brother-sister duo into the movie. Feige maintains a poker face on that scoop, saying only: “I’m not confirming or denying. The draft could change six months from now.”
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