Avengers vs X-Men

[Batman25JM]

I'm proud of myself. I didn't cave and get issue #0. I'm going to try and stay strong and not get #1. I'm just sick of these events!

[Bigtymin504]

AvX #0 was solid intro, nothing too exciting other than Vision being a total dick to Wanda lol. I love Frank Cho's art so that was definitely a plus..Scarlet Witch, Ms. Marvel, and Spider-Woman never looked so bootylicious. I actually liked the Vision-centric Avengers #24.1 more than this. It was basically AvX #-1.

[prescribeddrone]

I downloaded issue 0 and it was very mediocre.

[Denim]

There should of been a note in issue 0 somewhere saying to read Avengers 24.1 before reading this.

What if the Phoenix really wants to go inside of The Scarlett Witch instead of Hope? Wonder if Hope could be the red herring.

How is Thor back? If he came back in his own book, why didn't Marvel make a big deal out of it?

[Arsenal]

What if the Phoenix really wants to go inside of The Scarlett Witch instead of Hope? Wonder if Hope could be the red herring.

That is my theory, hope is to obvious, and why even have Scarlet Witch in the lead up issue is she isn't. She has never had anything to do with the Phoenix before. Plus Cyclops talking about the Phoenix being about rebirth would fit with going into the person who destroyed mutants

[prescribeddrone]

I never thought of that. With a Scarlet Witch Phoenix a universal "reboot" sorta makes more sense. Cool theory.

[Aussiemandias]

Avengers vs X-Men #0

Some people may consider this issue pointless but I don't read any X-Men titles (except for X-Factor but I do keep somewhat abreast of what's going on) and I actually found the Hope story really helpful as I knew next to nothing about her so it gave me a bit of a an idea of what she's about which is kind of important seeing she appears to be the central figure in all this.

Plus, Frank Cho's art!

nothing too exciting other than Vision being a total dick to Wanda lol.

I've seen a couple of people say this. How exactly should he act? Considering what she did why shouldn't he be a bastard to her? People are that way to each other for a hell of a lot less. I think the reaction of people acting like nothing has ever happened is the less realistic reaction.

Avengers vs X-Men #1

I actually liked it. Straight away this feels better to me than some recent Marvel events (and it's already light years ahead of the craptastic Fear Itself - quite frankly, DC's Firestorm is probably better than that book was). I don't know what the difference is for me but something about this seems to make more sense or the idea just works better. Hey it's early days yet but so far so good.

While the action didn't really start yet (although I thought Nova's entrance was pretty good) I enjoyed the conversation between Cap and Cyclops at the end of the issue. I must say I don't completely get Cyclops's logic here but he does seem like a guy who's really been backed into a corner and isn't going to take any more. I wouldn't be shocked if Cyclops is a villain by the end of this series. Probably the only thing that bugs me a little is that I don't get a sense that any of Cyclops's colleagues agree with his thinking so I'm not sure why they'd just blindly follow him on this.

Also, this is definitely JRJR's best art in some time.

What if the Phoenix really wants to go inside of The Scarlet Witch instead of Hope? Wonder if Hope could be the red herring.

Interesting thought. Seems a possibility seeing there's that focus on Wanda in the #0 issue. Why would you do that if she wasn't going to play some sort of key role?

I need to figure out how the augmented reality works because there were a few pages with the AR logo on it (I have a droid I am sure I won't be able to use it).

It says it's available for Androids. I went to the web page and it doesn't appear to be up and running yet and that's probably because #1 isn't supposed to be sold yet. The whole idea is interesting but I could actually do without the AR appearing all over the place on top of the artwork. It's not pleasing to my eye.

[jaydee74]

I read #0 and it was okay. There was a lot that went over my head because I didn't get it or I've been away for too long. When did Vision come back? Why is he pissed at Wanda? When did he have the ability to cry? I did like Tony's comment about how he always liked Vision and Wanda together. I have to say I did as well. One of my favorite aspects of West Coast Avengers was those two. This was an interesting first issue although there was nothing in this issue to tell me why the two teams need to fight but oh well.

[Bigtymin504]

Avengers vs X-Men #0
Some people may consider this issue pointless but I don't read any X-Men titles (except for X-Factor but I do keep somewhat abreast of what's going on) and I actually found the Hope story really helpful as I knew next to nothing about her so it gave me a bit of a an idea of what she's about which is kind of important seeing she appears to be the central figure in all this.

Well that's basically mission accomplished for this issue then. Seems like that's all they were going for really.

I've seen a couple of people say this. How exactly should he act? Considering what she did why shouldn't he be a bastard to her? People are that way to each other for a hell of a lot less. I think the reaction of people acting like nothing has ever happened is the less realistic reaction.

I hear ya Aussie, but considering she was also mostly under the influence of outside forces I would think he would cut her a little slack. She basically had a total mental breakdown. On the other hand, she was responsible for some pretty horrible stuff so I do understand his anger.


Also, darn all you guys for getting AvX #1 early. My LCS is following the "rules" and waiting till Tuesday's launch party thing.

[Strider]

AvX #0

I liked it fine. I want to see where it all goes.

[Arsenal]

Also, darn all you guys for getting AvX #1 early. My LCS is following the "rules" and waiting till Tuesday's launch party thing.

My LCS guy's exact quote when he handed me my copy was.."Why the hell do they even send me anything early, they know I will seel it early, I tell them I am going to sell it early."

Of course I just passed my copy on, as I have the Midtown cover int he mail to me.

[Aussiemandias]

Also, darn all you guys for getting AvX #1 early. My LCS is following the "rules" and waiting till Tuesday's launch party thing.

This was originally a penal colony. The "rules" don't mean much to us.

[jaydee74]

They are having a launch party for this thing? Eh. Why not? Gotta bring as much hype to this as possible.

[Bigtymin504]

Also, darn all you guys for getting AvX #1 early. My LCS is following the "rules" and waiting till Tuesday's launch party thing.

This was originally a penal colony. The "rules" don't mean much to us.

I need to move Down Under.

[Strider]

This was originally a penal colony. The "rules" don't mean much to us.

You said "penal".

[Aussiemandias]

This was originally a penal colony. The "rules" don't mean much to us.

You said "penal".

[Jherek Carnelian]

AvX #0 is the first Marvel comic I've bought since the original Ultimates line came out. Thought i'd take a look, might be an antidote to the mess DC have made of their universal reboot (except the stuff that they didn't bother rebooting cos it's too complicated. *cough* Green Lantern. Batman.). And I thought the zero issue would be a handy catch-up for a lapsed Marvelite. Needn't have bothered. The Pheonix? Vision crying? ( it's not a new power Jaydee it's an iconic reference which even I'm nearly too old to get it! Google 'Even an Android can Cry')Scarlet Witch alternating angsty with badass? Some kinda Mutant Messiah/alternate future shit? What is this, 1978? Coupled with some outright celebration of mysogeny (I'm surprised Wanda and her gal pals didn't actually end up in refrigerators) and some of the worst art I've ever seen. Verdict - could and should do better. This is leading up to a DC style reboot right?. Whatever.

[Strider]

AvX #1

I really enjoyed the issue. Great cliffhanger ending too. I love "badass" Cyclops.

[Arsenal]

AvX #1

I really enjoyed the issue. Great cliffhanger ending too. I love "badass" Cyclops.

I am always a fan of that.


I got around to reading AvX#1's digital copy and I liked that it didn't have the AR reminders on the page, but that also made it harder to use the AR reader because I didn't remember what pages had it. Digital copy also had a Nova backup story that the print version did not. I am pretty interested in his story, always have liked him and might pick up the infinite book once it is out just to give it a read.

[jaydee74]

Read #1 and thought it was an okay start. I do agree, Cyclops is pretty awesome in this. I liked the training session between him and Hope. I always wondered what would happen if these characters could just rationally talk shit out instead of having to pound each other into hamburger meat. Oh well. I guess that makes for a more entertaining event. This was interesting.

[Bigtymin504]

Avengers vs X-Men #1

I really liked it. Good crisp dialogue from Bendis with just the right amount of exposition to set the table for what's to come. JRJR's art was some of his best in years. Scott and Hope's training scene was awesome. I loved Cap and Cyke's tense conversation, especially the "Respectfully, get the hell off my island."

While I love both the Avengers and X-Men, I find myself gravitating more and more towards the X-Men side in this, and this issue helped reinforce that. Cap and the Avengers just show up on the X-Men's doorstep and start making demands to turn over Hope. I know they're afraid ever since Wanda but this still feels like an overreach on their part. Especially showing up like gangbusters in a SHIELD Helicarrier like a bunch of government goons. I think the X-Men will feel more like the sympathetic side in all this just like Cap did in Civil War.

The Nova Infinite comic was really cool too. Great new use of the digital platform and beautiful Immonen art. Also gotta say, this issue had some damn good bang for your buck. 34 pages of story, free digital copy, free Infinite comic, and the AR stuff was a pretty cool bonus too.

[Denim]

I bitched, moaned, complained, and thought this whole thing was a dumb, money grabbing ploy when it was announced.


Thank you Marvel for proving me wrong. A book like this, reminded me why I have a love and will always have a love for "Superhero" comics. It was great, while I shudder at the fact that this thing is going to have more tie in issues than Avengers members, I am looking forward to seeing more!

As far as the infinite Nova book goes, that was amazing as well. There were panels that were just amazing to see transform to other views (Nova HUD panel was my favorite)

I only bought the digital book, is there more if you buy the print one? Someone mentioned the codes on the pages.

[Arsenal]

I only bought the digital book, is there more if you buy the print one? Someone mentioned the codes on the pages.

All it does in the print version is show what pages to use the AR reader on.

And does the Infinite comic do anything special? Or is it just a stream lined way to read?

[prescribeddrone]

Since I was only buying 3 comics in the last 2 weeks this week, I saw a bunch of these and picked it up. It was decent but like I said after all the big events that just fizzle out into oblivion I'm very weary of this and this hasn't earned a spot on the pull list.

Maybe if the first print becomes worth more money, I might ebay it and end up with the trade of this if it's good. Might get issue 2 to get a better idea, depends on how many books I get in 2 weeks.

[Batman25JM]

I've been pretty critical of this. I firmly refused to get it. I then debated for about a half an hour yesterday on whether or not to get it. I ended up passing on it. However, I heard a bunch of good things about it, so I went back to my LCS today and picked it up. I actually liked it quite a bit. I thought Cyclops was great in it. It really makes me wish that Bendis would write X-Men. All the stuff with Cyclops and Hope and then Cyclops and Cap was great.

I wasn't too into the art. I'm just not that big on JRJR.

I wish Bendis was writing all of this. I don't wan to read Matt Fraction's writing ever again.

I'll stick with this for now. I hope it keeps up the quality.