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Avengers vs X-Men

Postby Bigtymin504 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:49 pm

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In a story published on the USA Today website, the publisher announced a 12-part bi-weekly series debuting in April. The core "Avengers Vs. X-Men" title will be co-written by Marvel's "Architect" writers -- Brian Michael Bendis, Jason Aaron, Jonathan Hickman, Ed Brubaker and Matt Fraction -- and drawn by big name artists Frank Cho, John Romita, Jr., Olivier Coipel and Adam Kubert.
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Re: Avengers vs X-Men

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http://www.usatoday.com/life/comics/story/2011-12-06/marvel-comics-avengers-x-men/51672784/1
Fittingly, this war between Marvel's two biggest super-teams has made the comic-book publisher up its game in the digital space. Each of the 12 Avengers vs. X-Men issues will be available in comics shops and digitally on the same day beginning in April, with each print issue including a free copy for download on the Marvel app.

In addition, Marvel.com will host a live news conference at 3 p.m. ET Wednesday for fans via Livestream featuring Fraction and fellow writers Jason Aaron, Brian Michael Bendis, Ed Brubaker and Jonathan Hickman, the five Marvel writers behind the series. Marvel will also use Google+ to allow its readers to interact with Avengers vs. X-Men creators and the hashtag "#AvX" for fans to converse about the event on Twitter and Facebook.

Avengers vs. X-Men is a social experiment for its creators, too. A departure from recent Marvel events such as Fear Itself,Secret Invasion and Civil War, the series is scripted by a different writer from issue to issue, and artists John Romita Jr., Olivier Coipel and Adam Kubert will each illustrate one four-issue "act."


Bi-weekly, the top creators, free digital copies. All of this sounds great to me!
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Re: Avengers vs X-Men

Postby Aussiemandias » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:14 pm

Bigtymin504 wrote:http://www.usatoday.com/life/comics/story/2011-12-06/marvel-comics-avengers-x-men/51672784/1
Fittingly, this war between Marvel's two biggest super-teams has made the comic-book publisher up its game in the digital space. Each of the 12 Avengers vs. X-Men issues will be available in comics shops and digitally on the same day beginning in April, with each print issue including a free copy for download on the Marvel app.

In addition, Marvel.com will host a live news conference at 3 p.m. ET Wednesday for fans via Livestream featuring Fraction and fellow writers Jason Aaron, Brian Michael Bendis, Ed Brubaker and Jonathan Hickman, the five Marvel writers behind the series. Marvel will also use Google+ to allow its readers to interact with Avengers vs. X-Men creators and the hashtag "#AvX" for fans to converse about the event on Twitter and Facebook.

Avengers vs. X-Men is a social experiment for its creators, too. A departure from recent Marvel events such as Fear Itself,Secret Invasion and Civil War, the series is scripted by a different writer from issue to issue, and artists John Romita Jr., Olivier Coipel and Adam Kubert will each illustrate one four-issue "act."


Bi-weekly, the top creators, free digital copies. All of this sounds great to me!


The format troubles me a little - a different writer each issue could give the series a real up and down feel and basically lack consistency. After Fear Itself I'm finding myself not terribly excited about any Marvel event (despite them saying it's a departure from events). Hopefully this series can turn me around.
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Re: Avengers vs X-Men

Postby Denim » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:18 pm

I wonder how many tie ins and point one issues will be a part of this.

I think the overhype is gonna kill this, it's not the 1st times these two teams have clashed.

It's yet another Phoenix story that will defnitly tease or even bring back Jean (Only a matter of time)

To many writers will may also cause a problem, anyone remember the clone saga?

I will read it, but I am not that impressed so far.
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Re: Avengers vs X-Men

Postby Arsenal » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:37 pm

I am going to get it. The free digital copies are icing on the cake.

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*12 issues is too long, bi-weekly or not, too long and I bet they will be $4 books so that's two extra books a month for me.

*Rotating writers is never a good plan, too easy for continuity to get screwed up.

*I am betting even with all the writers involved this will be a Bendis Event, so I am expecting a total of 3 issues to involve fighting, and one of those will be with the new Phoenix

* I will put money down that the new Phoenix is not going to be hope, I am betting it will be Quentin Quire, he is getting a lot of attention in the X-books and was stated in one of the X-books years ago a possible avatar of the Phoenix.

* Jean will be back in the last issue in one of the coming soon pages.
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Re: Avengers vs X-Men

Postby Bigtymin504 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:41 pm

Aussiemandias wrote:The format troubles me a little - a different writer each issue could give the series a real up and down feel and basically lack consistency. After Fear Itself I'm finding myself not terribly excited about any Marvel event (despite them saying it's a departure from events). Hopefully this series can turn me around.


That's a good point. Maybe they should have gone with each writer doing a four-issue "act" like the artists are doing. But then I guess it would feel more like a series of miniseries rather than one long series.
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Re: Avengers vs X-Men

Postby Bigtymin504 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:44 pm

I REALLY hope Jean comes back, and sooner rather than later. :)

Also found it cool that both X-Men and Avengers were trending worldwide on Twitter today.
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Re: Avengers vs X-Men

Postby prescribeddrone » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:28 pm

I'm passing this up. If anything I'll just read about it online.
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Re: Avengers vs X-Men

Postby Batman25JM » Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:48 am

I'm not sure if I'll get this. Rotating writers doesn't thrill me (especially since one of them is Fraction) and neither does rotating artists (especially since one of them is JRJR).
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Re: Avengers vs X-Men

Postby Arsenal » Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:29 am

Batman25JM wrote:I'm not sure if I'll get this. Rotating writers doesn't thrill me (especially since one of them is Fraction) and neither does rotating artists (especially since one of them is JRJR).



Maybe you will get lucky and they will work on the same issue, so you can just skip that one.

Since it is JRJR you know it will be a dialog and not action filled book.
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Re: Avengers vs X-Men

Postby prescribeddrone » Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:52 am

What strikes me odd is established and "responsible" super heroes act like kids and fight because they don't agree on what's the best situation, I mean wouldn't they think it's better to come up with a solution that's more diplomatic? With people like Spidey, Cap, Wolverine, Cyclops... wouldn't they think what reputation would that leave?
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Re: Avengers vs X-Men

Postby Arsenal » Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:16 am

It would work better and make more sense for them to come up with a better plan as a group.

But superhero fights sell books and Bendis likes writing Cap as a know it all old man.
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Re: Avengers vs X-Men

Postby Strider » Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:49 pm

Brubaker, Hickman and Fraction together makes me want to pick this up, JRJR is just icing on the cake for me.
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Re: Avengers vs X-Men

Postby Rath99 » Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:11 pm

Strider wrote:Brubaker, Hickman and Fraction together makes me want to pick this up, JRJR is just icing on the cake for me.


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Re: Avengers vs X-Men

Postby Bigtymin504 » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:15 pm

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Frank Cho is the man...hopefully there aren't too many bootylicious shots of Hope. :lol:
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Re: Avengers vs X-Men

Postby jaydee74 » Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:17 pm

So, I just don't see how the X-Men can possibly take on the Avengers with the lineup they have a the moment. Now it looks like Wolverine will be an Avenger in this battle. Will he have to fight his X-Men from his X-series? I can't tell what side Storm is on but it looks like Beast is about to attack her and he is wearing his X-costume so I am going to assume she is an Avenger in this fight. The fact that this has been done before doesn't really interest me but if something really cool comes out of this, maybe I'l check out what happens afterwards. Or get this in trade.
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Re: Avengers vs X-Men

Postby Arsenal » Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:19 pm

jaydee74 wrote:So, I just don't see how the X-Men can possibly take on the Avengers with the lineup they have a the moment. Now it looks like Wolverine will be an Avenger in this battle. Will he have to fight his X-Men from his X-series? I can't tell what side Storm is on but it looks like Beast is about to attack her and he is wearing his X-costume so I am going to assume she is an Avenger in this fight. .


OK fan boy fight.

Depending on what X-Team we are talking about here. If it is all the X-men vs All the Avengers then X-men win. Just because they have the Magneto, Emma, Colossus/Juggernaut set up. Even Iceman has gotten a big boost. That doesn't count any of the kids, because well Kid Omega while he could take them down is worthless int he long run, as he is a tool.

Avengers is missing the heaviest hitters at this point, Danger could take down Vision, and Iron Man. Magneto could take down Iron Man and incapacitate any of the other ones, same with Emma due to being a Psychic. Colossunaught is on par with hulk, but Red Hulk is the only one that would be a full threat other then Ms. Marvel.

So unless there is some massive write BS the X-men are stacked against the Avengers. Plus I can see the X-men fighting dirty. Also I don't care what team Storm is on, she can just sit it out I dislike her and have no interest in her, but it looks like she is shooting lightning at Iron Man on the cover
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Re: Avengers vs X-Men

Postby jaydee74 » Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:27 pm

Well then. :lol: I joke about how Spidey basically kicked the crap out of the X-Men way back in Secret Wars so hoe can the X-Men stand up against Spider-Man and a whole bunch of Avengers? Including Red Hulk. Seriously though, I would be curious to see what members who are on both teams will wind up siding with. Wolverine's decision should be interesting as to who he will side with. Same with Beast and Storm. Should be interesting.
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Re: Avengers vs X-Men

Postby Arsenal » Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:24 pm

jaydee74 wrote:Well then. :lol: I joke about how Spidey basically kicked the crap out of the X-Men way back in Secret Wars so hoe can the X-Men stand up against Spider-Man and a whole bunch of Avengers?


I am always blow away by writers during events where they take who they like and put them in god mode. But it is going to be interesting to see what happens. I am still thinking there will be a lot less X-men vs Avengers fighting then we would like. More like Avengers vs X-men in a moral standing not in a violent way.
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Re: Avengers vs X-Men

Postby jaydee74 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:21 am

I see that happening as well. I sort of remember a Justice League vs the Teen Titans and it had a decent amount of fighting along with morality conversation. I can see that happening with this as well but with 12 issues, there better be a good amount of throwing down as well. I don't know about this. I might have to get this in trade. It's sounding pretty interesting to me but I want to hear what others think about this first.
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Re: Avengers vs X-Men

Postby Bigtymin504 » Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:29 am

Arsenal wrote:
jaydee74 wrote:So, I just don't see how the X-Men can possibly take on the Avengers with the lineup they have a the moment. Now it looks like Wolverine will be an Avenger in this battle. Will he have to fight his X-Men from his X-series? I can't tell what side Storm is on but it looks like Beast is about to attack her and he is wearing his X-costume so I am going to assume she is an Avenger in this fight. .


OK fan boy fight.

Depending on what X-Team we are talking about here. If it is all the X-men vs All the Avengers then X-men win. Just because they have the Magneto, Emma, Colossus/Juggernaut set up. Even Iceman has gotten a big boost. That doesn't count any of the kids, because well Kid Omega while he could take them down is worthless int he long run, as he is a tool.

Avengers is missing the heaviest hitters at this point, Danger could take down Vision, and Iron Man. Magneto could take down Iron Man and incapacitate any of the other ones, same with Emma due to being a Psychic. Colossunaught is on par with hulk, but Red Hulk is the only one that would be a full threat other then Ms. Marvel.

So unless there is some massive write BS the X-men are stacked against the Avengers. Plus I can see the X-men fighting dirty. Also I don't care what team Storm is on, she can just sit it out I dislike her and have no interest in her, but it looks like she is shooting lightning at Iron Man on the cover


This is awesome. Reminds me of my younger days hanging around battle boards. :lol:

Scott's Extinction Team of Emma, Colosonaut, Storm, Namor, and Magneto is a pretty powerful bunch.
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Re: Avengers vs X-Men

Postby Strider » Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:49 am

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Frank Cho is the man...hopefully there aren't too many bootylicious shots of Hope. :lol:


People have begun to compare the Scarlet Witch's cape to a vagina in this picture.

Bootylicious indeed. :lol:
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Re: Avengers vs X-Men

Postby Arsenal » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:02 am

Bigtymin504 wrote:
This is awesome. Reminds me of my younger days hanging around battle boards. :lol:

Scott's Extinction Team of Emma, Colosonaut, Storm, Namor, and Magneto is a pretty powerful bunch.



Ahh the battle boards. I normally don't bring up team vs team specs, but that is the one thing from House of M that I noticed the powerhouse mutants were the ones that kept their powers. So without a Thor the top tier power wise they have is Rulk/Ms Marvel/and The Protector (nee captain Marvell).
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Re: Avengers vs X-Men

Postby Bigtymin504 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:47 pm

So here's Cho's awesome art without the giant logo covering all of it!

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It will be interesting to see the dynamic between these two. Wanda being responsible for the decimation of the mutant race and Hope supposedly being it's savior, neither of which having asked for those distinctions. Plus I wonder if the consequences of this event were what Bishop was trying to prevent with killing Hope. Maybe he was right all along...
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