In Defense of… Kevin Smith’s “Red State” Road Show

Not everyone sees eye-to-eye. You might love something that’s reviled by most others. When we at PoP! feel like that, we make an argument In Defense Of…

What is it about Kevin Smith? Fanboys just love bickering about New Jersey’s favorite son. This isn’t the first time PoP! has been home to a point/counterpoint and I usually find myself in the pro-Smith camp. Apparently it’s that time again. Just last week, our own Ben Gilbert let his grievances known with Kevin Smith’s Red State Tour. Ben’s no fool and made some excellent points about Kev’s newest project, a lot of them about the announcement itself. It WAS more than a little dicky, but I think that was kind of the point.

Nothing about this development is a shock to anyone following him on Twitter or a listener to one of his many podcasts on the Smodcast network. The tweets and conversations over the past few months have absolutely been pointing towards a move to self-distribute. The man’s mindset surrounding this movie is different than any other he’s done, and maybe that’s a byproduct of this being a different kind of movie than he’s ever done. Then again, he’s gone on record as saying he’s no longer just a director or a filmmaker; he’s an entertainer, as the nearly constant touring and hour upon hour of free podcast content can attest to. Now he’s moving into live streaming radio. He’s a showman, and what better show than the one at Sundance to get the word out. Was it a bit misleading? Yes. But the point was made and it sure as Hell got people talking about it.

Filmmaking doesn’t get more independent than this, and for all the crap he caught for “selling out” to Warner Bros., you’d think people would be more supportive. But no. He’s wrong because he’s “exploiting his audience.” Right. That argument is absolute crap. EVERY artists “exploits” their audience. That’s what the audience is there for. “If you build it, they will come” and all that. He’s not doing anything any other artist would do. He knows he’s got a good thing with his installed fanbase and he’s counting on that audience to finance his distribution instead of a studio. I do NOT understand how that’s wrong. If the film’s investors are okay, who are we to pass judgment?

It’s a risky move, to be sure. If the necessary capital isn’t raised, what does that mean for the flick’s theatrical release? It’s an experiment and it may not pay off. I think it will, but the unknown here is pretty fascinating to watch. So far, he claims he hasn’t made a dime off of the movie, and given it’s modest $4 million budget, I believe it. I don’t think this exercise is designed to pad his pockets; it almost can’t be. The ticket prices aren’t high enough and the tour isn’t long enough. This is about the movie, and that’s kind of awesome.

This isn’t the first instance of Smith doing something just for the sake of his art. For four years, he’s been giving away Smodcast for free before spreading out to an entire network of shows (something we know a thing or two about ourselves) and now going live with 10 hours per day of free streaming content to his fans and listeners at SmodcastInternetRadio. Yeah, this guy is a raging asshole for taking advantage of people by asking for money at these Red State screenings, huh? Right. I’m being sarcastic, but in all fairness, ticket prices are a little steep; but he’s being completely up front about what the money is being used for. Plus, how often does the general public get a chance to watch a movie and then immediately engage with the filmmakers live? It can be a once in a lifetime opportunity and again is part of this genuinely interesting experiment in film distribution and promotion.

Am I a fan of Kevin Smith? Absolutely. Does that mean I have to hang on his every word and praise his every move or piece of work? Not at all. The Evil That Men Do and the ending of  The Widening Gyre are REALLY not good, in my opinion. This, however, is not some money-hungry villain trying to capitalize on his sucker fans, nor is it an ungrateful filmmaker spitting in the face of his industry. I genuinely feel like Kevin Smith’s only crime is daring to try something new in an industry that is CONSTANTLY coming under fire from insiders and fans alike for always doing the same old thing. I’m just glad I get to watch the experiment unfold and see what’s next. Am I going to see Red State on the road? No, unfortunately. The nearest venue means a four-hour drive each way on a work night. Otherwise, I’d have bought a ticket weeks ago.

The Red State Tour begins tomorrow in New York City. To see if Kev’s rolling through your town, check out and be sure to read the Red Statement, a simple mission statement from the Harvey Boys about their vision behind this project.


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  1. Joshua says:

    “This, however, is not some money-hungry villain trying to capitalize on his sucker fans”

    He’s not a villain, but it takes only a look at the Secret Stash or his many, MANY comments saying that he will sell anything to his sucker fans. Sure, he’s being slightly tongue-in-cheek about it, but they do pretty much sell everything at that store. Not that I’m faulting him for that, that’s business. If there’s demand for something, someone should make a profit off of it. However, to say he’s not capitalizing off his small, but rabid fanbase is off-base.

    “It WAS more than a little dicky, but I think that was kind of the point.”

    Come on, Lee, you can do better than that. That’s the entire gripe people are having. He INTENTIONALLY was a dick to people when he could have made his statement of independence and still taken the higher road. All you’ve done with this statement is support the very argument your’re rebutting against. And aside from that, it’s okay to be a dick so long as that’s your goal? Accidental douchebaggery is a faux pa? At the risk of being slightly insulting, I think your opinion on this matter is tainted by your fandom because your defense here is weaker than I know you capable of.

    • Look, I’ll sell you a Paige O. Pannel thermos if you’ll buy it. If folks want to throw down bucks to pay 40-60 bucks to see the flick, that’s their prerogative. Kevin has every right to do this tour. If this were the only way the movie would ever get seen, I think maybe then there’d be some more reason for this outrage. As it stands, I have no beef with it at all.

      And I’m not disputing that holding his bogus auction was a dick move. I wouldn’t have done it personally, but the goal was achieved. It made a statement.

      • Joshua says:

        I must be missing something, because I thought the only reason anyone was calling Smith out was because he held a public auction only to yank the rug out from everyone’s feet. I haven’t heard anyone mention the cost of tickets, nor do I really care what they cost.

        If you agree that what he did was dickish, then aren’t we all on the same page?

  2. Ben Gilbert says:

    I think the only way this argument can truly be settled is to get Kevin on the PoPcast to plead his case in person.

  3. juggalojohn says:

    i agree with Lee on this, i used to hate Kevin in highschool. but now i think he’s pretty good, (didn’t see cop out)

    The trick of telling studios that they could bid on his film then just fucking them over was a dick move, but the whole tour thing is a pretty cool idea. the ticket prices aren’t that back for a true fan, i mean im sure every one of us have spent that much on something that pointless. I know i have paid 60 bucks for a few shows before. and like let said its kind of a once in a lifetime thing.

    Plus Horror is kind of hard to Fuckup, and the plot of this movie seems like a great idea. (fuck those westboro guys)

  4. nubbins says:

    I agree with Lee on this one. Brandon and I are going to the screening of Red State here in Indianapolis and you all will get to hear about it when we get home!

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